Over the years I have been approached by friends and family telling me that the dietary supplement they happened to be distributing would help me. Mushrooms, exotic plant extracts, juice, pills and powders have all been offered as the solution to aging and illness. In every case I was given anecdotal information (stories of miracle cures and benefits) telling me about people who's lives were saved or positively effected by the miracle product.

After thirty plus years of hearing these stories I have concluded four things: 1) The person offering the product was usually making money, often in some multi-level marketing scheme and was far from unbiased 2) The product did no harm (in most cases) and actually provided some basic nutritional benefits, but fell short of the big "miracle we have all been waiting for" 3) The greatest benefit came from helping the customer focus on nutrition and a healthier lifestyle 4) The customer was given hope, a very powerful cure.

The "results" mentioned in this thread are very subjective and not at all scientific. I advise caution.

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I visited the Water & Salt website and as I feared it is quite blatantly a sales site.

This concerns me. Often people coming to our website have a current and pressing need for MEDICAL information. If they get sidetracked onto some "revolutionary miracle cure" website they may lose precious time they can't afford to waste.

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I have found excellent results using chlorella for blood-building, detoxification, alkalizing, helping to increase energy levels.

I get high-quality chlorella from Integrated Health: Integrated Health - Supplements for daily nutrition

Integrated Health is just one source among many. But they also offer a unique high-RNA formula called Rejuvenate. This blood-building formula contains chlorella, spirulina, chia seeds, d-ribose, magnesium, and other nutrients to boost uptake of nucleic acids, detoxify, and build blood counts: REJUVENATE!™

In addition, for building blood count, I make a blend of fresh vegetable juices that includes organically-grown beets, carrots, and parsley. You also can use leafy greens like kale and spinach. It is best to make it fresh with your own juicer (I recommend a twin-gear Green Star or a masticator-type like a Champion), or have it made for you. Drink freshly-made juice immediately, or at least keep it cold until it is consumed.

I have discovered that putting the chlorella, Rejuvenate, or other green superfoods directly into fresh juice effectively and rapidly builds a high blood count. In this regard, my friend Dr. Richard Schulze says you can build anyone's blood count to normal within 24-hours just by using a juicer. I juice for friends with cancer, and it works for them. But getting their doctors to believe in the power of beet juice is entirely another story.

In regard to the different sources of chlorophyll, chlorella offers the advantage of being a single-cell organism, and so it is easy to assimilate. Chlorella also offers a unique cell-wall that can detoxify heavy metals and industrial pollutants. Finally, chlorella contains high-quality proteins, minerals, vitamins, and the highest levels of dietary nucleic acids (e.g., RNA and DNA) among all foods. High levels of RNA are known to stimulate tissue repair and healing, largely because RNA is needed for the production of energy (ATP) in cells. Any substance that can increase production of ATP will boost healing and improve intercellular communication. For all these reasons, chlorella both makes an ideal source of chlorophyll and is a healing food. Chlorella and superfoods containing chlorella, such as Rejuvenate, take this concept of using a high-chlorophyll plant for healing to the next level. Most recently, I have added chlorella to skin poultices with good results. I will post more about this experience.

Warning: I have watched this discussion develop over a long period of time. It ends with the opinion of "experts" suggesting what to take and where to find the products for purchase. I am sure Phillsaska is actually trying to help. I am just as certain that Phillsaska has no idea what he is recommending or the effect of this post on desperate people.

Let me see if I understand you Phillsaska.

• You are reading information written by "a doctor".
• The doctor claims that taking a pint of liquid chlorophyl the night before a transfusion is to be forced brings the blood count almost to normal.
• You can provide a link to the site

Alright, let's break this down. And let's be direct here because you are making miracle claims that offer hope to all people who are about to have or may have a blood transfusion forced on them.

1. Who is this person you call "a doctor"? What type of doctor? Let's assume this a real medical doctor. Are medical doctors always right? Do medical doctors ever attach themselves to businesses for money?
2. For a person to be sick enough to require (in the opinion of physicians) a blood transfusion their hemoglobin must be well below 10. Let's say it is 7 (this seems to be the trigger these days). How high shall we build the blood counts? The "normal" hemoglobin is above 13 (this varies between people of course). Since you say almost normal lets hope for 12. So you are saying that "a doctor" says that drinking a pint of special liquid will raise someones hemoglobin by 5 points the equivalent to taking 5 units of Red Blood Cells, over night? How does this happen? Does the patients bone marrow produce the red blood cells? What is the mechanism? I ask because this process is in reality a miracle (an event that appears to be contrary to the laws of nature and is (by some) regarded as an act of God). Doesn't that sum it up?
3. Is this a pediatric patient? A patient who is unconscious without an advance directive? Where is the forced blood transfusion to take place? In a developed country with laws? When is the last time you heard of blood being "forced" on an adult?

Your vague, speculative, unsubstantiated, opinionated post opened a discussion that ends with "experts" (apparently nutritional experts) going on to make their own vague, speculative, unsubstantiated, opinionated claims (in which at least some have a financial stake). In my opinion this is not the place for that sort of wacky information to be dispensed. In my opinion this sort of information offers false hope and is a "red herring" that wastes the time of people in trouble who need real medical information.

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Thank you Mr.Wade, thanks for the "wake up" call ... my son's Hb was yesterday at 6,9 and the doctors were talking about a blood transfusion if it drops further (In Germany parents have no legal rights to their children once they are in the hospital, the doctors decide whats best with the full support of the court system). I read this webpage and quiet literally ran to a "natural" store to buy some Liquid cholorophly (very expensive stuff, tastes like green tea), unfortunately they only had the powered stuff that claimed to be as good as the liquid stuff. I gave him a total of about 300ml (a little more then an American cup) that evening... Well to make a long story short, this morning his HB counts were at 5,6 and he therefore got a blood transfusion!!! So much for a miracle "drug"!!!

I am so sorry for your terrible situation. At least going to get the stuff gave you something to do, which is helpful at those times. What is your son's illness? Perhaps someone here can suggest something.

Don't give up hope.

All the best.

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Pardon the post incase this has already been covered. For the sake of time.

Does anyone know if liquid clorophyl which is made from alphalfa act as a blood thiner?

FYI Alfalfa is a blood thinner. Keep in mind if you are already on aspirin / Alfalfa will increase the blood thinning effect. Additionally if you are allergic to plavix or other blood thinners alfalfa which is in liquid chlorophil may cause you to have a bleeding episode. Hence, Caution is advised.

Mr Zimmer

I don't know much about stem cells, I appreciate your admittance that you are not a health professional, I'm not one either [yet]. I am wary of you saying about stem cells 'circulating' as they should be in the bone marrow or at the basement membrane of the skin. I am also unsure if stem cells would be appropriate given that they can be taken from say Umbilical Cord Blood, are you talking about those stem cells or those taken directly from the patient? If a member of the Hospital Liason committee wouldn't mind clarifying the acceptability of stem cells or whether it is a conscience decision I would be grateful.

Thanks

P.S. look at the work on Chlorophyll, that is incredibly interesting. [Please correct your spelling, if you recommend a treatment, direct us to a peer reviewed scientific study, and use correct spelling]

Hi Richard Casas

I appreciate the warning, the last thing one of Jehovah's Witnesses even if they haven't got a low haemoglobin level [or haematocrit] is to bleed.

I have read on here that it contains large quantities of Vitamin K, the antidote to warfarin, so it would prevent warfarin working or reduce its effectiveness [which thins the blood by another mechanism]. However are you saying that it has the equivalent of an antiplatelet effect.

also Alfalfa is a vegetable from which you can extract chlorophyll, if there were bits of Alfalfa, a solid in a liquid sample of Chlorophyll I wouldn't want to take it

there is chlorophyll in Alfalfa!

Are you saying it is an interaction with the antiplatelets Aspirin and Clopidogrel [Plavix(R)]. Also you say that if you are allergic to Plavix(R) then alfalfa may cause you to have a bleeding episode.

Are you saying that all patients allergic to blood thinners [Plavix(R) and Aspirin] have thin blood and hence are more likely to have a bleeding episode with Liquid chlorophyll. That doesn;t sound right to me...please can you provide me/us with a source of this information. What posiiton do you play in the healthcare field Mr Casas?

Kind Regards