I don't know the answer to that question, sorry. I would like to thank Phillsaska for the lengthy post regarding chlorophyl that I don't have the time to post. It was very informative. I am also familiar with live blood cell testing, having had it done a few times myself and seeing my husband's and daughters testing also. I also have Bernard Jensen's chlorophyl book, among others. When my daughter was pregnant I gave her a "green" product to take that included split cell chlorella and several other greens. Her doctor was amazed at her HCT numbers because she said pregnant women's number are usually lower than that.
When I gave my mother-in-law the liquid product from World Organics, I called the company to find out what it was made out of and they said alfalfa.
Kat

I just read this entire thread, and was very interested. I believe I will try this for myself, and for my daughter, who is experiencing multiple endocrine problems stemming in part from systemic Candida albicans overgrowth. This kind of information is what makes NoBlood such a tremendous asset. All your contributions are deeply appreciated.

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if the Magnesium could be replaced with iron that may be a viable blood substitute.

What is the similarity between haemoglobin and chlorophyll?

I'm interested in acellular blood substitutes, if someone could find the scientific paper referred to and provide a citation/link I would be grateful

can chlorophyll be ingested safely by a person with normal haematocrit to gauge its effectiveness in raising the haematocrit?

In other words, would a person with normal hematocrit be negatively impacted if the chlorophyll was able to raise his or her hematocrit from "normal" levels? The proportion of red blood cells in the body does change with certain conditions such as dehydration, which causes hematocrit to rise, as does blood doping, causing a potentially very dangerous increase in the proportion of red blood cells to plasma called "sludge blood". Happens here in Colorado at high altitudes. Blood can't circulate if too many RBC's and not enough plasma.

Would taking chlorophyll cause a rise in RBC levels that would be unsafe? Good question. Would be an interesting study to try to correlate amount of chlorophyll required to raise hematocrit so many percentage points above "normal".

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About a year ago, I heard of a hospital in our area using a liquid chlorophyll treatment in their orthopedic patients who requested 'no blood.' As I was due to have a revision for my old hip replacement, I was of course very interested. The treatment was post-operative however, so my wife collected the information just in case I decided to try it after surgery. As this was my third revision all together, I was used to the recuperation period and the gradual building up of the blood count etc. Following this particular operation my hemoglobin was 6.8 at the 48 hour post-op stage. That is when I started with the liquid chlorophyll. At first my doctor was very sceptical, mind you, so was I.
I came home 5 days later with a reading of 10.1 and within two weeks of surgery was back to 14.4 the count I had pre-operatively. The recovery this time was certainly much quicker, and my general feeling of well-being was vastly improved. After many, many major orthopaedic operations I have to say that this product worked extremely well with me. However, the formula given to me in the first place included the taking of a liquid iron supplement as well as the chlorophyll.
Unfortunately I gave the formula / amounts etc. to another patient, so if anyone is interested I will post the formula used by the hospital as soon as I can contact them tomorrow.
Regards,
Tim.

Tim,
Glad to hear of your positive experience. I am very interested in the info if you can send it to me via email on this forum or as a reply to this post...I have had and face more orthopedic procedures and need to consider this. Thank you!!

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Tim: Were you given iron supplements only in any previous surgeries, so that some comparison could be made between those for which you took only iron and this last one for which you took both? It would be difficult to determine if it was the iron or the chlorophyll or both that was responsible for your increased hemoglobin levels.

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G'day Jan, in answer to your question, I can only remember being given iron once before. Back in the eighties, I was a lot younger and healthier, (weren't we all ?) so following my first THR, my post-op blood count wasn't too bad. So they just gave me iron tablets, and apart from the occasional bottle of Guinness, that was it, and I went home slightly anaemic after 9 days.
After my last revision this was the formula I was given:
Liquid Chlorophyll (alfalfa base) - 15mls three times daily after meals, taken with a little water.
Liquid Iron (Ferro-Force) 15mls in morning before meals.
Ferr-Phos ? Tissue salts, one tablet three times daily.
As I said before, I believe it worked really well with me. However, as with all medications, and health alternatives, every individual may have different outcomes. All I can add is that many patients who have undergone extensive surgery without blood, and have used this formula, seem to agree as to it being extremely efficacious.
I hope this helps,
regards,
Tim.

Thanks for the info, Tim. I'll put this in my file and speak with my surgeon when the time comes and do more research as well. I'm glad you did well with that surgery and treatment.

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